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Creative Capital's Application Advice Chats

Chat #1 ­ February 18, 2004

Please note that this transcript has been edited. The order of questions and responses, and mistakes in spelling have been changed in some cases to clarify the  content of the online conversation.

Moderated by:

CreativeCapApp: Aaron Landsman, Program Coordinator for Grantmaking

AskSeanAtCC: Sean Elwood, Director of Grantmaking and Artist Services.

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AskSeanAtCC: Any questions?

messengingisfunn: My only question about the application at the moment is about the character count. If I do a carriage return, do all the blank spaces in that particular line count?

AskSeanAtCC: Yes, I believe so.

messengingisfunn: So it might be best to cram information together rather than indent.

AskSeanAtCC: I suppose.  But we hope we have given enough space for you to give full answers, without too much concern for the exact count.

messengingisfunn: I’m more referring to the 'public presentations' section--I’ve been hitting return after every screening but there are a lot so I might find another way to list them

CreativeCapApp: That sounds good.

CoronaCDavis: Hello. Does Creative Capital think it is acceptable use of funding to include living expenses in the budget? Do they consider exhibition materials and, materials for mock up books to send to publishers acceptable.

AskSeanAtCC: Don't use living expenses. But do figure a fee for yourself. Materials are fine to figure into the budget.

Pelacus: Your guidelines ask for projects to have a beginning, middle, and end. My series of photographs is ongoing, but should result in a show, even though I have nothing lined up. Is this a reasonable way to describe my project? I have plenty to say about the work itself and the ideas it embodies.

AskSeanAtCC: Yes a body of work is a project, or can be.

lancegol: I'm a visual artist collaborating with a poet. Does this meet the collaborative guidelines?

AskSeanAtCC: Yes

barithegirl: I am a documentary filmmaker, verite style more than Ken Burns-y.  You seem more inclined to more experimental forms, yet I also see that you funded the Weather Underground Documentary. So I'm just wondering what constitutes the kind of doc you likely to be funded

AskSeanAtCC: Yes, we stress experimental form and/or content.

barithegirl: Will we be able to save our online inquiry forms piecemeal before sending them to you?

CreativeCapApp: Yes you can work on them bit by bit. But, I'd suggest working out your answers in a separate word processing document, and then pasting them into our form, so that you have a backup.

barithegirl: if I’m already about 3/4 of the way through the shooting my doc, so my main costs now are going to be post (the main part of the budget), is that cool?

AskSeanAtCC: Yes. But put the whole budget in. If you just put postproduction in, we will think you don't understand how much making a film costs.

sic2@mac.com: my project is proposed as an overall media campaign with a film at center, and many other aspects revolving around it: gallery installations, street art campaign, production of art objects, etc. But film is what I want to start and focus on first, especially w/ creative capital.  do you suggest I include broader scope in terms of "body of work" vs. single first focused project?

AskSeanAtCC: In your case, I think focus on the film. You can mention the rest in passing. But focus on the film.

jgirardoni: Any advantage/disadvantage of proposing for a single installation project vs. a series of installations? And if it contains some sound - but still is predominantly sculptural - I still submit for V.A. - right?

CreativeCapApp: It depends on the project - we'd have to know more about the specific work to be able to advise on that.

Pelacus: Do you have any past applications available that can serve as models?

AskSeanAtCC: Not right now, but we're working on it. The new Letter of Inquiry is not like our previous Applications

Jonglamar: You are not looking at any images in the first round of reviewing inquiry forms, right?

AskSeanAtCC: No. Just a clear description of the project

CreativeCapApp: Yes that is correct

Jonglamar: When you just said to include a fee for yourself, do you mean an hourly rate?  How do people do that?

AskSeanAtCC: Figure how many hours and figure a reasonable hourly wage or a fee that is reasonable for the whole project. But any number for your fee is only a placeholder.

Jonglamar: How so, Sean?

AskSeanAtCC: We are not looking at a detailed budget in this round. Just remember that as you work up your budget you must pay yourself something. It can be a percentage of the project 15% to 20% is reasonable.

Jonglamar: That's helpful.

PmoneyLsny: I am applying for support for a media project that has been commissioned (but not fully funded) by a 501(c)(3) what portion of the budget for the project should be submitted?

AskSeanAtCC: The whole project budget amount should be listed. But realize that we understand this is only a very early version of your budget

brodywolfe: I am a visual artist and would like to apply with the possibility of collaborating with a computer scientist. Would this be Interdisciplinary or Visual Art? If we decide to do an interactive project would we wait until next year?

CreativeCapApp: That depends on whether the final project will be visual art or interdisciplinary. Also, you should apply to the panel who will know you best.

barithegirl: I'm confused by what constitutes experimental documentary.  I have one project that plays more with form than the other, which is social/political in nature but more "traditional" verite doc (shot in Tibet) in more need of $. Again, more like Weather Underground, which wasn't very experimental. So wondering which of the two I should send in. AskSeanAtCC: The first sounds more like us. Whichever seems to you to push the boundaries of the discipline.

barithegirl: Then again, if I didn't actually cover production costs, is it okay to use funds retroactively?

AskSeanAtCC: Yes to post-production, no to retroactive funding.

brodywolfe: I thought I read in the earlier chats that CC would change our categories if we applied to one that CC deemed more appropriate.

CreativeCapApp: Yes that is correct.

PmoneyLsny: Again with the commission, would it be advisable to submit the director of the commissioning organization as a professional reference or would someone completely uninvolved be more appropriate?

AskSeanAtCC: Someone who is most familiar with you, your work and the project.

brodywolfe: If my project would involve interact components at a later date (but does not now) would I be better off applying next year?

CreativeCapApp: No, you should apply now.

jzvanwinkle: For a collaborative project by two persons.  Does question 4 about the context/influences of your work, relate to the primary collaborator or both (2 of us) collaborators?

AskSeanAtCC: Probably a joint answer if possible.

jzvanwinkle: For a joint answer to the question, are we still limited to 100 words total? Or 100 Each?

CreativeCapApp: 100 words total.

Jonglamar: When you say financial and other resources, what are "other resources"?

Jonglamar: You mean the promotional aspects of what you do?

AskSeanAtCC: Yes, that's part of it, Strategic Planning, resources at the retreats etc.

AskSeanAtCC:  Artist services - Go to the website and look in to what we do.

brodywolfe: Please define "collaborator" as opposed to "technical advisor."

CreativeCapApp: A collaborator is someone who is indispensable to the project, who is one of the generating artists. Not someone you just hire for a particular task.

sic2@mac.com: I noticed from some case studies that the initial grant served in some ways to first  begin and organize the project.  then increased funding came via that organization and further meetings pitching project.

AskSeanAtCC: That is correct.

sic2@mac.com: if the applicant sees the budget as higher than original Creative Capital range, how does this play into the budget request and overall presentation to creative capital at this first stage?

AskSeanAtCC: Put in your total budget and request what you can from us. We often don't fund an entire project.

sic2@mac.com: that's what I figured. it seems like Creative Capital puts a lot of energy into the organizational development of the artist and project, thus leading to a more focused execution and increased funding via that process?

AskSeanAtCC: Yes.

jzvanwinkle: For Collaborators bio info, can we submit two bios (250 words each) or is it one resume for primary collaborator and 250-word bio for other?

AskSeanAtCC: 2 bios.

Jonglamar: What's your thinking behind having the initial inquiries be written, rather than looking at visuals first, as most grant reviews do?  I'm curious.

CreativeCapApp: Two reasons. One is that we don't have the resources to view so many work samples. Two, we are interested in how you can articulate your project, what's behind it, and why it's important to you.

PmoneyLsny: I anticipate the first public performance of my project to be in the spring of '05, which will mean your decision on funding could be only 3 months prior to performance. This would imply that a commitment to pursue the work was made regardless of your funding.  Will this essentially disqualify the application?

AskSeanAtCC: Not completely, but we like to participate in the project. So we like as much time to do that as possible.

jgirardoni: I was curious about the Visual Arts/Emerging Fields distinction.  My proposal is for a series of installations, which heavily use sculptural elements, but also would have a "tech/interactive" component.  Can I still submit for  V.A.?

CreativeCapApp: Yes, go ahead and submit in Visual Art.

jgirardoni: Would I indicate "interdisciplinary" - or installation?

CreativeCapApp: Whichever you think defines it best. Whichever form is prominent.

sic2@mac.com: my project is multi-disciplinary, combining animation and video, it's also experimental and a non-traditional narrative. It has an installation component too.  is it okay to specify multiple categories?

AskSeanAtCC: No, pick one. If we don't think that it will get the fairest reading in that cat, we will move it.  The same person reads them anyway. The reviewers are familiar with the kind of complexity you are suggesting

Jonglamar: Is proximity to New York City a factor in your selection of artists?

AskSeanAtCC: No, we are a national organization, and the grants reflect that.

brodywolfe: A question was in an earlier chat re: international venues for projects. Would that be considered or is CC focused on national (US) audiences only?

AskSeanAtCC: International venues are okay.

Ejgirardoni: one more follow-up - Does your "interdisciplinary" refer to a mix of the categories you list under "visual arts" or to a combination of categories you list as well as something outside those?

CreativeCapApp: Both are possible.

ELM311films: I'm developing a fiction feature with an experimental process, but the film itself will look like a straightforward narrative. I will cast FIRST, and develop characters/plot through improvisations, then write the script. Does this fit in to Creative Capital's funding initiative?

AskSeanAtCC: It could.

ELM311films: The final film will not be 'experimental' per se.

AskSeanAtCC: To be funded it must be experimental in either form and/or content.

ELM311films: So would my process be considered experimental? (it certainly is by mainstream funders!)

CreativeCapApp: That is something the evaluators and/or panel will have to decide...we'd need more details about the process to determine it.

sic2@mac.com: does Creative Cap want to see a video sample that is a test section of proposed project? I made a 5-minute test for a show awhile back. My project is out there in terms of words vs. visual description, have noticed this to be helpful in describing it thus far.

AskSeanAtCC: No work samples in the Inquiry phase. If you are invited  to make a formal app, then we look.

Jonglamar: And if I understood the instructions correctly, if we have some savings of our own we can commit to this project, we're not supposed to mention that in the budget?

CreativeCapApp: You can identify that as "individual contributions"

brodywolfe: One again, to be reassured, I am in the research and development stages for new work and wish to expand. This seems Ok according to your guidelines. Am I correct?

AskSeanAtCC: Yes.

CreativeCapApp: I'd like to urge everyone to stop by our guidelines page online, at http://apply.creative-capital.org.

sic2@mac.com: how does creative capital's funding relate to ownership of final art production?

AskSeanAtCC: It belongs to the artist.

Jonglamar: Should photo-documentation of visual art (i.e. slides) be part of the budget?

AskSeanAtCC: That would be okay

Dotcom1: Are you funding in 2004 and 2005 only Visual Arts and Film/Video, or does that include performing arts too?

CreativeCapApp: This year Visual and Film/Video, next year Performance and Emerging Fields.


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